{"id":1452,"date":"2010-01-14T20:34:47","date_gmt":"2010-01-15T02:34:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ministryofgrace.org\/blog\/?p=1452"},"modified":"2010-01-14T20:34:47","modified_gmt":"2010-01-15T02:34:47","slug":"romans-417-children-by-faith","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ministryofgrace.org\/test\/romans-417-children-by-faith\/","title":{"rendered":"Romans 4:17 &#8211; Children by Faith"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" title=\"Ministy of Grace Church\" src=\"\/Banner-MOG-60.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"472\" height=\"58\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: normal;\"><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal<\/w:View> <w:Zoom>0<\/w:Zoom> <w:TrackMoves \/> <w:TrackFormatting \/> <w:PunctuationKerning \/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas \/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false<\/w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false<\/w:IgnoreMixedContent> 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class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: normal;\">God\u2019s promise to Abraham referred to both his physical descendants and to his spiritual descendants.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: normal;\"><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Behind the Words<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: normal;\">The words \u201cI have made\u201d are translated from the Greek verb <em><span style=\"color: maroon;\">tith\u0113mi<\/span><\/em>, meaning \u201cto place\u201d or \u201cto put.\u201d The Hebrew word in the passage Paul is quoting (<strong><span style=\"color: maroon;\">Genesis 17:15<\/span><\/strong>) is <em><span style=\"color: maroon;\">nathan<\/span><\/em>, which can have several shades of meaning, one of them being \u201cto give or to grant.\u201d The Greek word is expressed here in the perfect tense indicating past completed action with an ongoing effect.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-top: 6pt; line-height: normal;\">\u201cIn the presence\u201d is from <em><span style=\"color: maroon;\">katenanti<\/span><\/em>, which literally means \u201cdown over against.\u201d It is used to indicate being \u201cin the sight of\u201d or \u201cin a place in front of\u201d someone or something.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: normal;\"><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Meaning Explained<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: normal;\">Like a number of verses we have looked at in the past, this verse must be looked at in connection with the previous verse in order to get its full meaning. Connecting the first part of this verse (a quote from <strong><span style=\"color: maroon;\">Genesis 17:15<\/span><\/strong>) with the previous verse gives us:<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin: 6pt 0.25in 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;\"><em><span style=\"color: #3366ff;\">\u2026 <\/span><\/em><span style=\"color: navy;\">so that the promise might be sure to all the seed, not only to those who are of the law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all<\/span><em><span style=\"color: #3366ff;\"> <\/span><\/em><span style=\"color: navy;\">(as it is written, &#8220;I have made you a father of many nations&#8221;)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-top: 6pt; line-height: normal;\">The point is that Abraham is the father of all who are saved through faith. In other words, at the time that God said this to Abraham, because of Abraham\u2019s faith, God had already granted to Abraham that he would be a father of many nations.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-top: 6pt; line-height: normal;\">If we look at the descendants of Abraham, we see that he is the father of the Jews through Isaac (from his wife Sarah), the father of the Arabs through Ishmael (from Sarah\u2019s handmaid Hagar), and the father of numerous other tribes through the six sons with his second wife, Keturah.<span> <\/span>However, the Apostle Paul evidently understood the promise as referring, not to the physical descendents of Abraham, but to the spiritual descendants (all those who believe in God\u2019s message).<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-top: 6pt; line-height: normal;\">The next phrase, \u201c<span style=\"color: navy;\">in the presence of Him<\/span>\u201d refers back to the first part of the previous verse. Hence, \u201c<span style=\"color: navy;\">Therefore<\/span> <em><span style=\"color: gray;\">it is<\/span><\/em> <span style=\"color: navy;\">of faith that <\/span><em><span style=\"color: gray;\">it might be<\/span><\/em> <span style=\"color: navy;\">according to grace\u2026 in the presence of Him whom he believed\u2014God \u2026\u201d<\/span> In other words, the faith is demonstrated in the presence of God. It\u2019s not just some ethereal \u201cYeah, I believe in God\u201d type of experience. Rather, it is a belief in what God says, in His presence, so that there is no doubt either in what is believed or in the reality of that belief.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-top: 6pt; line-height: normal;\">Paul then says of God that He both has the ability to give life and to call things which do not yet exist as if they already did exist. In other words, this God of ours neither has any bounds on his power nor is he bound by time. He is without limit in both time and space. We will see the significance of this in the next verse.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: normal;\"><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Application<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"line-height: normal;\"><span>If you believe the promise that your sins are paid for through the blood of Jesus Christ, then God has declared you as righteous and you are a son or daughter of Abraham through faith. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-top: 6pt;\"><strong>In God\u2019s service, for His glory,<\/strong><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"..\/..\/signature.gif\" alt=\"signature\" width=\"63\" height=\"35\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: right;\"><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal<\/w:View> <w:Zoom>0<\/w:Zoom> <w:TrackMoves \/> <w:TrackFormatting \/> <w:PunctuationKerning \/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas \/> 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